President Trump

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:02 pm

The Shill put the douche in douche bag.

Gerry M. · Post by **Gerry M.** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:29 pm

The thought of Shilling running for Senate is a laugh. I have an extreme dislike for Liz Warren but the mere thought of him as an alternative is unthinkable. I equate it to a smaller scale Trump vs. Hillary choice but I trust MA is smart enough to laugh him off. Even Scott Brown couldn't beat her, thankfully.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:58 am

Lots of good statewide polls for Clinton on Tuesday.
A little nervous that she's only up by 5 in CO with Johnson polling strong.
Good numbers for her in NV though.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:25 pm

A Poll this morning shows Clinton at +5 in Arizona. Arizona!

Plus a Bloomberg poll puts her up 9 points nationally.

Will we hear a tremendous death rattle from the Trump candidacy tonight?

Chateau Vin · Post by **Chateau Vin** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:53 pm

OK. I voted today. Done... Finito...

Presidential election, state senator, house, state assembly, nearly 20 props, and other ballot measures...4 pages long ballot paper, and there goes my vote...

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:00 pm

Well done, CV.
Myself, I need some alcohol in order to absorb the punishment tonight, going with 2012 Felsina Berardenga Chianti Classico Reserva….

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:26 pm

I don't think that one bottle of wine will get me through the "debate".

JonathanP · Post by **JonathanP** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:44 pm

Jim, what punishment? I thought it was a reality show. Pure entertainment.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:51 pm

Yes it is real alright, Jonathan.
And we even have a moderator tonight who can get nasty.
Fun.

If I'm not mistaken they are going to be sitting tonight, which should help Hillary.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:54 pm

Everyone keeps talking about Trump's free falling campaign but all I see are polls that have him up in FL, OH, even in OH, NV, down only 4 in PA, etc., etc., with still three weeks to go.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:02 pm

I hear Sarah Palin is in the building tonight. Oh joy.

JonathanP · Post by **JonathanP** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:05 pm

In Florida last week I met a number of people who are Trump supporters but well informed and sensible.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:10 pm

Yes. I believe that Jonathan.
That is a big part of the problem.
The Trump phenomenon has very little to do with voter "ignorance."

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:33 pm

Some good anti-Trump commercials here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6ByvuJYMU

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:01 am

Looks like they'll both be standing, not sitting.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:09 am

>>
I met a number of people who are Trump supporters but well informed and sensible.
>>

Really? I have never met such a person.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:22 am

JimHow wrote:Well done, CV.
Myself, I need some alcohol in order to absorb the punishment tonight, going with 2012 Felsina Berardenga Chianti Classico Reserva….

Looks like a beauty, Jim. Just think, in 10 years I'll be dating that wine.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:26 am

Well, Hound, as you know, I like 'em young.
This is a nice wine, I'm trying to remember what I paid for it.
I'm drinking it slowly, trying to get just a little bit of a jag before the "debate," you know, like when they put you halfway under for a colonoscopy.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:27 am

Just watched Mike Pence on this whole rigged election thing.
God I despise that fraud.
I would rather see Trump as president than Pence.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:04 am

The candidates are on the stage at 9:04 p.m. EST, 6:04 Pacific time.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:05 am

Nothing close to a handshake.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:07 am

I opened a second SI Momtazi, a 2010, in the hope that it will allow me to last the debate.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:07 am

Split screen. You're drawn to Donald while she speaks. His eyes squinting.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:09 am

Good Lord! Just say that you want the best jurist available for the SC!

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:09 am

First question on Supreme Court.
Hillary gives strong answer.
Donald goes after Ginsberg, 2nd amendment.
He's calm.

This debate is all about Donald.
Is he as crazy as he seems?

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:12 am

Ginsberg is a red herring, but the rest of his answer shows good programing. HRC needs to go on the attack to get The Donald to blow up.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:16 am

Trump calls for repeal of Roe v. Wade.
Appeals to the base, but not beyond.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:19 am

Trump pulls out the old "rip the baby out of the womb" rhetoric.
So vile.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:22 am

Trump starting to get wound up at 9:20 on immigration.
No big points scored either way in first 20 minutes, which is of course good for the person ahead.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:23 am

Now he's sniffing again.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:24 am

She's hitting him on his deportation plan.
Ah, the first image of "trains" mentioned about 24 minutes in.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:25 am

Round 1: Supreme Court, Guns, Abortion:
Tie.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:25 am

The 2010 Momtazi has a seductive nose, but lacks the structure and fruit of the 2009. So far it is the 2009 by a lot.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:26 am

JimHow wrote:The candidates are on the stage at 9:04 p.m. EST, 6:04 Pacific time.

Don't forget Hawaiian Time: 3:04 pm.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:28 am

Wow! The bouquet on the 2010 keeps getting better. If you could combine its nose with the structure of the 2009 you would have a PN that would match top level Grand Cru Burgundies.

The debate not he other hand, is not exciting.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:30 am

Round Two:
Immigration:
Donald's face getting red.
Now he's interrupting the moderator.
She's smacking him around on this issue.
Round Two on Immigration goes to Hillary.

I think Mike Wallace is on Hawaii time, Hound, he said it was 3pm when the debate started.
He's doing a solid job so far, a half hour in.

The debate so far is not exciting, Stefan. Question is, is that good for Donald or Hillary?

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:32 am

The moderator is obviously pro Trump, but he is not helping him much. Now Trump is smirking. He is about to go Donald.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:32 am

Hillary putting the hammer down on the Putin issue.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:33 am

It took 32 minutes, but Donald is now going off the rails.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:35 am

At 9:34 EST, he is unhinged.