President Trump

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:11 am

Biden wins Michigan.

As we New Englanders would say, this primary campaign is "ovah"....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm

Wait til Trump, the Republicans, and Fox News use the coronavirus to mess with the 2020 elections.

Jay Winton · Post by **Jay Winton** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:55 pm

JimHow wrote:Wait til Trump, the Republicans, and Fox News use the coronavirus to mess with the 2020 elections.

I don't like a National Emergency and I really don't like having Trump gain additional powers. Can he meddle with the election?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:22 pm

We need Franklin Roosevelt.
Instead, we have Orange Head.

Chateau Vin · Post by **Chateau Vin** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:36 pm

It's more likely that Biden will win the state of Washington with 95% results in, and is a surprise. If Biden sweeps FL, AZ and IL (with OH postponing its primary), would Bernie step out of the race?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:05 am

I'm kind of sad to see Bernie exit the stage.
I know people get pissed at his Bernie Bros., but he never attacks anyone and stays on his message.
He ended up being a fairly important figure on the American political scene.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:26 am

Trump now over 50% popularity.

Time to watch more Bojack Horseman.

danzur · Post by **danzur** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:12 pm

The only way that poll is accurate is if the people surveyed was a VERY select group.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:33 pm

Lol danzur.
I don't know, historically we rally around our presidents during times of crisis.
I'll tell you one guy who is really rising to the crisis is Andrew Cuomo.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:35 pm

Yep, I'm watching him on TV right now.

Jay Winton · Post by **Jay Winton** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:50 pm

I've been impressed as well by our governor, Larry Hogan, in Maryland. Now to try and get our niece to leave NYC.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:42 pm

Cuomo's been a great example of leadership in a crisis.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:50 pm

Trump polling in at all time high:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz

Comte Flaneur · Post by **Comte Flaneur** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:29 pm

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tr ... ronavirus/

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:22 pm

Man is he in his element tonight in his press conference.
Meantime, Uncle Joe coughing and sputtering from his basement.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:09 pm

JimHow wrote:Man is he in his element tonight in his press conference.

You mean making a public ass of himself? I agree.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:09 pm

A lot of people eat that shit up.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:20 pm

I think the elevation is shaping up in a pretty straightforward way:

First, the election will be close given entrenched partisanship and the realities of the electoral college (unless there's an economic disaster).

Second, the economy will tip the outcome, given how close the fundamentals are. If the economy is decent-to-good, Trump's probably a slight favorite even with a net approval rating that's never been positive his entire presidency (a first since polling began). If the economy goes into a mild recession or worse, Trump is the clear underdog.

Despite his negatives, I think Biden is known, moderate, likable, safe. He has much better approval ratings than Hillary did at this stage and given the coronavirus sucking up all of the oxygen, Trump will not have much time to try to tar and feather him.

My brother and I are betting a bottle of First Growth on the outcome: if Trump loses, he's buying, if Trump wins, I am. I am liking my chances right now.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:21 pm

JimHow wrote:A lot of people eat that shit up.

Like modern Chateauneuf du Pape.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:23 pm

Lol....
I pray you are right, blanquito. I pray you are right...

I think there is a third option... The whole electoral process will be thrown into chaos by corona, and Orange will retain control with a little help from his friends (at SCOTUS).

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:51 pm

JimHow wrote:Lol....
I pray you are right, blanquito. I pray you are right...

I think there is a third option... The whole electoral process will be thrown into chaos by corona, and Orange will retain control with a little help from his friends (at SCOTUS).

I try really hard not to go there, such scenarios give me agita.

But if such a thing happens, do Americans take to the streets to protect their democracy or do we roll over?

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 am

Blanquito wrote:I think the elevation is shaping up in a pretty straightforward way:

First, the election will be close given entrenched partisanship and the realities of the electoral college (unless there's an economic disaster).

Second, the economy will tip the outcome, given how close the fundamentals are. If the economy is decent-to-good, Trump's probably a slight favorite even with a net approval rating that's never been positive his entire presidency (a first since polling began). If the economy goes into a mild recession or worse, Trump is the clear underdog.

Despite his negatives, I think Biden is known, moderate, likable, safe. He has much better approval ratings than Hillary did at this stage and given the coronavirus sucking up all of the oxygen, Trump will not have much time to try to tar and feather him.

My brother and I are betting a bottle of First Growth on the outcome: if Trump loses, he's buying, if Trump wins, I am. I am liking my chances right now.

The BD and I have a bottle of 1989 Lynch Bages riding on whether Trump beats his electoral college total of 304 from 2016.

A hell of a lot can happen between now and November.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:21 am

I still say I'm going to win that bet, David.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:23 am

I think I have a bottle of 2009 Gruaud Larose on the line this November but I forgot what was put up against it.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:26 am

So you guys STILL think Trump is going to be defeated in November 2020. Even after this.
Hmmm. interesting.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:33 pm

Nope, I’m currently worried he’ll be re-elected.
Ask me again in a month.

brodway · Post by **brodway** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:17 pm

Depends who is running up against him. I say push Cuomo through after the current state of affairs are resolved and people will be pleased with a fresh option...

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:24 pm

I was too young to remember MLK and the Kennedy brothers, but I remember watching Mario Cuomo's speech live at the 1984 Democratic convention, it is to this day the greatest speech I've ever seen in my lifetime. Can't find the whole thing on YouTube but here are 7 minutes of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOdIqKsv624

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:09 pm

Boy, I'll tell you guys, anybody who does not think this guy Orange Head is a political force is doomed to see a repeat of history.
This may have been his strongest press conference yet. Strong, in command of the details, hopeful, aspirational....
He is now in a groove, the likes of which I haven't seen from him since the 2016 campaign....
He has found his voice.

brodway · Post by **brodway** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:46 pm

You can't underestimate Trump....watched a documentary about him last year....he was sent off to military school against his wishes...he became a captain there....leaders are sometimes born leaders...he certainly has that charisma

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:54 pm

Indeed. We have seen that charisma before in the world. And that narcissism....

Jay Winton · Post by **Jay Winton** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:20 pm

Trump's ratings increase. Biden is stuck at home and Bernie is quiet about his future. Not good.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:52 am

Is Corona destroying Joe's chances at the presidency?
I say yes, there is a huge amount of time being lost here, every day Orange gets to be on TV looking FDR-like, Joe is coughing away into his hands from his basement.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:55 am

I really wish someone from his team would tell Joe to wear some glasses, honest to god he looks senile, he looks like he's had plastic surgery or something, he looks different from that robust guy who Obama relied on heavily. This could be a massacre, folks.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:47 am

Fox News Poll — Saturday March 27th, 2020
General Election: Trump vs. Biden — Biden 49, Trump 40 — Biden +9

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:18 pm

David Brooks says Biden doesn’t need to do anything now, the election is a long way off.

He’s half right, which is better than usual for him.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:01 pm

Yeah, I can only take so much of David Brooks.
We shall see... I don't think it is overdramatic to state that the future of our republic (and the world?) is at stake.
We have a megalomaniac in there right now.

AKR · Post by **AKR** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:45 pm

Maybe we need to impose martial law nationally and put the Surgeon General in charge.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:44 pm

Maybe we need to impose martial law and have the Surgeon General institutionalize Orange Head into a psychiatric hospital.
This press conference is making me lose my appetite.

Hoping for the best for the PM, Ian.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:04 am

This press conference tonight was a new paradigm.
We've known this for a long time but we have a very mentally sick individual in the oval office.
We have heretofore almost laughed at the thought the 2020 presidential election could be hijacked.
Now, I score it at a 50% chance.
Imagine if the election were next Tuesday?