President Trump

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:59 pm

I really like those three women in leadership in Michigan, Jon, the governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State.
They don't take any shit from the nasty old men and racist white dudes of the Republican Party.
Loved the AG today pointing out that falsely reporting a crime to law enforcement (e.g., "voter fraud") is itself a crime.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:06 pm

GSA ascertains Biden. Wow. Things happening fast now.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:17 pm

And his wife was one of the canvassers in Wayne County who filed an affadavit citing irregularities in the counting process.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:17 pm

I read it was 3 - 0 to certify in Michigan as the Dom Don guy abstained (must have been the 07 Dom).

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 pm

President just took a baby step toward conceding.
Wow what drama.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:22 pm

Blanquito, you are correct because the 4th vote was an abstention, not a "no."

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:24 pm

Loved this Washington Post story - "Detroit had more vote errors in 2016 when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object then."

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:45 am

The GSA lady that’s been dragging her feet about releasing funds for the transition team has sent a letter, apparently in response to House pressure, indicating that she’s ready to go. And more courts have tossed Trump’s suits, some I believe with prejudice.

Apparently Trump wants his entire SS team, not the usual past-President detail, to move to FL to protect him. And wants fortifications at Mar-a-Lago, all at government expense. I have a better suggestion for guards and fortifications: the ADX Florence Superman prison in Colorado. If by some twist of fate he is untouchable for Federal crimes, NY State can offer accommodations at Rikers Island.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Pennsylvania certifies election results

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:39 pm

Boy is it good to see normal people, responsible adults who can speak in full sentences, who aren’t sociopaths, not to mention actual experts, introducing themselves as Biden's national security team.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:52 pm

DavidG wrote:Boy is it good to see normal people, responsible adults who can speak in full sentences, who aren’t sociopaths, not to mention actual experts, introducing themselves as Biden's national security team.

Yes! I enjoyed listening to NPR this morning for like the first time in nearly 5 years.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:55 pm

Ha no kidding, it truly feels like we've been victims in an abusive relationship.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 am

For some reason Dan Quayle came to mind tonight, I googled him.
He was pretty partisan back in the day, by 1988 standards.
Come to find out, he was telling Orange Head to hang it up back on Nov 9th, the Monday after the election, more than TWO WEEKS ago....
Where have the "mere crazy" Republicans gone, as opposed to the "clinically insane" fascist Republicans currently ruling the roost??

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... to-move-on

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:31 am

...And remember the name Aaron Van Langevelde, my friends.

Most people will never realize what a hero this guy is, but he may just possibly have saved the country.

You think I'm joking....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop ... 02462.html

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:41 am

Oh, by the way, he is a lawyer.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:07 am

JimHow wrote:...And remember the name Aaron Van Langevelde, my friends.

Most people will never realize what a hero this guy is, but he may just possibly have saved the country.

You think I'm joking....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop ... 02462.html

Hero my ass. Doing your job in the face of political pressure to do something else is not heroism.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:11 pm

Hey these days I’ll take what I can get.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:17 pm

At least he didn't act cowardly the way the rest of his party has.
The most transparent national election in the country's history and they refuse to say the words President Elect Biden while letting DJT make repeated false accusations of conspiratorial fraud.
A pox on the Republican Party.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:00 pm

That is one of the better researched and written pieces that I've seen recently. Interesting about Ronna Romney McDaniel agreeing to drop Romney from her name at Trumps request when she was asked to lead the national Republican party.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:56 pm

JimHow wrote:...And remember the name Aaron Van Langevelde, my friends.

Most people will never realize what a hero this guy is, but he may just possibly have saved the country.

You think I'm joking....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop ... 02462.html

I'll give him props for standing up to Trump, but hero? Like Chris said, he was just doing his job. These days, an honest Republican willing to do his job may be even rarer than a hero. That says more about the rest of the Rs than it does about Mr. Van Langevelde, though I do admire him.

As to saving the country? Nope. Not him. That was done by the people who voted for Biden. Michigan's electoral votes were eventually going to Biden one way or the other based on the popular vote, regardless of what the local or state certification boards did. The R-controlled legislature in MI doesn't decide.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:36 pm

The R-controlled legislature in MI doesn't decide.

So... Like 85% of Republicans believe that the election was stolen by massive voter fraud.
If Republican-led legislatures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada -- or, pick any three out of those six -- decide to send separate delegations of Trump electors to the House of Representatives on December 14th, where the Republicans in the House will decide who wins, tell me who stops the Republicans?

So you think it's so impossible? Read up on the presidential election of 1876 sometime.

Hard to imagine it happening, but do you completely put it past this fascist and his cult? Even SCOTUS wouldn't be able to stop them.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:07 am

I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying it’s not going to happen.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:11 pm

Third Circuit Court of Appeals three-judge panel, in a decision written by a Trump appointee, throws out Guilliani's Pennsylvania appeal.
Next stop, SCOTUS.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:03 am

Surprised that I've heard nothing about it on the news, a lot of attention has been devoted to the Barr AP interview, but as of late afternoon SCOTUS now has one of the Pennsylvania cases.
This should be interesting.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:59 pm

It seem the Democratic senate candidates in Georgia may have some strange allies. From the Washington Post - "Trump allies Sidney Powell and Lin Wood urge Georgians to boycott Senate runoffs"

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:09 pm

I saw Flynn urging martial law.
Who wants to bet he gives it a try?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:58 am

There is some caraaaazy shit going down out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTaljOqjq3s

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:07 am

It's a little arcane, but Alito and SCOTUS seem to be sticking it to Herr Orange Head this Friday evening in Philadelphia case.
We shall see.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:29 pm

I came across this "opinion" piece that appeared in today's NY Daily News. Not what you would normally expect to read from someone whose first career was chess.

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny- ... story.html

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:49 pm

Good piece, Jon, thanks for sharing it. I think he about sums things up.
Although, I still say you can't rule out martial law.
With the indictment and arrest of unindicted co-conspirator Individual #1 shortly after January 20th, the fingerprinting and mug shot pose, and... can I dream, the ever so glorious perp walk in lower Manhattan on the horizon, Herr Orange will engage in scorched earth before he is through.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:24 am

I will definitely breathe a sigh of relief at 12:01 PM on Jan. 20th, but I don’t think enough (ie >50%) of the military or police would support martial law if he tried it. Trump probably knows this, otherwise I bet he would call in the troops.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:21 pm

Garry was on Morning Joe today, talking about the Daily News piece.

JCNorthway · Post by **JCNorthway** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:07 pm

So I discovered that he is the Chairman of a non-profit (and non-partisan, whatever that is in today's environment) organization called Renew Democracy Initiative. The org has board members whom I would consider respected. And they have some interesting content on the site. One is a "project" called "Defining Democracy" with articles discussing a number of aspects of what makes up a democracy. They certainly have a point of view, but it is also pretty educational for those not familiar with come concepts and terms associated with our constitution and form of government.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:18 am

What a fucked up joke of a country we are living in. Holy shit.

The scary thing? I don’t think we are even close to bottom. Hang tight, folks.

Holy fuck.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:24 am

He's truly like the crazy estranged father going through a divorce who kills the family and then himself on Christmas Eve.

He's going to burn the house down on the way out.

I'm truly beginning to think we need a divorce. No mas. No more Ted Cruzes and Mitch McConnells and Lindsey Grahams.

No mas. No mas....

Those 18 states... See ya.... No more. No more.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:35 am

JimHow wrote: I'm truly beginning to think we need a divorce. No mas. No more Ted Cruzes and Mitch McConnells and Lindsey Grahams.

No mas. No mas....

Those 18 states... See ya.... No more. No more.

I’ve felt this way for over 20 years. The chasm is too wide, the GOP too debased. Democratic states should tell the Republican ones it’s over, let’s go our separate ways, and we’ll head off with three quarters of the GDP and start over.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:45 pm

If the fat lady hasn’t sung yet, her vocal cords are surely warmed up.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:51 pm

Yay SCOTUS.
Especially enjoying how his own appointees are shoving it up his ass.

Blanquito · Post by **Blanquito** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:08 pm

“In 2016... the 2,584 counties that Trump won generated just 36% of the country’s economic output, whereas the 472 counties Hillary Clinton carried equated to ~66% of the nation’s economy... This time, Biden’s winning base in 509 counties encompasses fully 71% of America’s economic activity, while Trump’s losing base of 2,547 counties represents just 29% of the economy.”
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-aven ... ic-divide/

Clearly, Blue America is a First World country being held down by the Banana Republic of Red America.

Texan law makers threaten to secede, I say good riddance.
https://www.chron.com/politics/article/ ... 790888.php

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:25 pm

Didn’t TX talk about pulling that shit a few years ago - was it when Obama was President? Buncha crybabies.