President Trump

JimS · Post by **JimS** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:49 am

This is like a 12 round prize fight - exhausting! Throw the old pollster playbook out the window and then burn it, because we are in a new era of politics, friends. Never ever would I have thought we would be talking about the race being at this juncture with so much in play in areas I would have least expected. I guess the sun still rises tomorrow, but I'm a bit less excited about the near future....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:51 am

Yeah, JimS, this is brutal.
Just brutal.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:54 am

They're doing the autopsy right now before calling the deciding states. This is like working over a body that arrives to the ER with no vital signs for 40 minutes. Just waiting for someone to turn off the EKG.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:54 am

They are talking in the past tense now. It's over.

AKR · Post by **AKR** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:55 am

Tomorrow is going to be an ugly day in the market.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:55 am

Wow.
Donald Trump with a Republican House and Senate.
Gulp.

JimS · Post by **JimS** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:55 am

As a silent observer, this thread has been awesome, highly entertaining, and classy (considering where political discussions unfortunately end up most of the time), so kudos to you Jim. This is pure Brexit 2.0 but on a far grander scale. At least we have wine...

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:56 am

Hillary Clinton will be indicted, handcuffed, and forced to do a perp walk.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:57 am

Call it already. His margins are too large to overcome. This is like a bullfight where the matador is just drawing it out.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:00 am

Yeah, time for the speeches.
Incredible.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:00 am

Comey is spared! He gets to lock her up!

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:01 am

OMG is this going to be ugly.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:03 am

Trump gonna win PA.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 am

PA ... America hates Hillary Clinton

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 am

DOW futures down 5%.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 am

He won the rust belt.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:09 am

The Thin Blue Line is ruptured.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:10 am

He just coopted my ER analogy.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:10 am

She didn't visit Wisconsin once during the general election.
Stunning.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:12 am

What did she do, Jim? Fracking Michelle and Barack were out there more than she was the last four weeks.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:16 am

Status quo. My rallying cry. Now it takes on an ugly subtext. I have to work like five more years ... status quo ... assuming my job isn't lost.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:19 am

PA is still in play, only 25% of Pittsburgh is in.
And MI is winnable.
It's fucking Wisconsin that killed us.
I'm surprised we haven't heard any rumblings from the Trump camp urging her to concede.

I don't know the answer, Hound.
The country is REALLY pissed off.
They really did a number on her.
But she was a weak candidate.
But I don't think it would have mattered.
He struck a nerve with a lot of really pissed people.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:25 am

The contrafactuals are interesting. Would a different Dem have beaten Trump? Would a different Rep have cakewalked over Clinton? Or did it take a complete wildcard like Trump to get it to this point?

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:26 am

Look at Jon King just playing with the touchscreen while they ramble on.

jal · Post by **jal** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:26 am

AlohaArtakaHoundsong wrote:The contrafactuals are interesting. Would a different Dem have beaten Trump? Would a different Rep have cakewalked over Clinton? Or did it take a complete wildcard like Trump to get it to this point?

Both possibilities but we'll never know.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:36 am

It's bizarre that we haven't heard from representatives of either campaign.
While I can see a miracle in MI, PA, and NH, Wisconsin seems out of reach.

jal · Post by **jal** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:36 am

stefan wrote:DOW futures down 5%.

Let's see if the Fed really raises rates this December

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:38 am

jal wrote:
stefan wrote:DOW futures down 5%.
Let's see if the Fed really raises rates this December

Let's see if there is a Fed in February.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:43 am

Call the cabinet.

I haven't a clue. Does he pick from the well-known names he ridiculed throughout? Does he reach into his list of undisclosed "smartest people" who he's been advising on their claimed specialities for the last year?

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:44 am

The dude is going off the rails.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:45 am

Let's see if there is a Fed in February. Looks like a buying opportunity.

I thought it would be close, but I'm stunned to see Trump win. And with an R House and Senate, the Supreme Court appts...

I really fear where we are headed. And when Trump doesn't deliver jobs and prosperity, how will the ticked off electorate that voted him in react?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:45 am

Well they said Rudy is gonna be AG, and Newt is gonna be Sec of State.

Okay Hillary, it's time to concede….

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:47 am

Screw the "divisions"in the electorate. One party controls the executive and both legislative chambers and also the Supremes. Could be a frenzy.

AKR · Post by **AKR** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:48 am

He is going to start a trade war. Tariffs on Bordeaux and Rhones as his way of punishing the drinking class.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:50 am

DavidG wrote:Let's see if there is a Fed in February. Looks like a buying opportunity.

I thought it would be close, but I'm stunned to see Trump win. And with an R House and Senate, the Supreme Court appts...

I really fear where we are headed. And when Trump doesn't deliver jobs and prosperity, how will the ticked off electorate that voted him in react?

Who the fuck wants a "buying opportunity?" You? Me? Please raise your hand.

Tom In DC · Post by **Tom In DC** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:53 am

AlohaArtakaHoundsong wrote:One party controls the executive and both legislative chambers and also the Supremes.

If Wikipedia is correct, one party has controlled the White house and both chambers of Congress for 51 of the last 100 years.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:09 am

Looks like Clinton might win the popular vote. Great.

Ah well i guess I'm gonna go to bed, I have no idea what is taking them so long, this seems like it was over at least a hour ago.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:10 am

Tom In DC wrote:
AlohaArtakaHoundsong wrote:One party controls the executive and both legislative chambers and also the Supremes.
If Wikipedia is correct, one party has controlled the White house and both chambers of Congress for 51 of the last 100 years.

Your point, Tom? Mine was to refute the assertion of one of the talking heads that Trump needs to deal with a divided electorate.

Tom In DC · Post by **Tom In DC** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:30 am

A little testy, Hound? Sorry if I offended or seemed like I was challenging anything. Didn't see where the assertion of one of the TH's was mentioned, so didn't understand your point. I now take notice of the quotes in your in your comment, but quotes don't seem to be literal very often on the interwebs.

AlohaArtakaHoundsong · Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:39 am

Testy, I'll cop. You certainly know how to quote one sentence out of a three sentence post. Do you have a point? Is it related to the need of a united government to respect a divided electorate?