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not over yet.
but the first impression first half is most important part.

Trump is raving.
She should just look into the camera and say, "America, do you see what I'm seeing? Can you believe this?"

No, she's doing good, she's looking presidential.
God, this guy is a nut cake.
I just can't believe his kids or whomever couldn't control him!

If he had been like he was in the first ten minutes, he would have kept the momentum going.
But about ten minutes in, something snapped.

all he need to do was avoid disaster. He was on a roll.
I don't know if this as a total disaster, but I'll be stunned if he doesn't lose at least a couple points in the polls after tonight.

Racer Chris wrote:he needs a life preserver fast.

Will a harpoon work?

DavidG wrote:Trump is raving.
She should just look into the camera and say, "America, do you see what I'm seeing? Can you believe this?"

Nah, you have to avoid the Al Gore *sigh* and related errors.

(live blogging the live blog)

Is it half time? Do they go to the clubhouse for 15 minutes and then come out defending the opposite goal?

Look at Hillary waiting to respond to the birther issue….

"Just listen to what you heard…"

the line of the night?

He rebutted her on the birther issue, it could have been worse for him.

He has rebounded a little in the second half, the question will be whether the damage was done in his borderline-disastrous first half performance. It'll be fun to watch the spin rooms.

Fifteen minutes left, Hillary seems to be running out the clock.

If I were advising her I would tell her to attack Donald 90% of the time. That's when she's at her best. When she's talking policy, ISIS, jobs, blah, blah, you want to snooze.

"I also have a much better temperament than she does."

the crowd groans.

He's having another breakdown at the end.

She pulls out the nuclear weapon card. Barry Goldwater territory.

Lester Holt did a nice job but he was ever-so-slightly biased towards Hillary, he's gonna get killed by Fox News and the Trump campaign.

I didn't see bias. Holt reigned in Trump more than Clinton because Trump was out of control, non-responsive.

Trump playing with fire on the "stamina" argument.
Surely he MUST be losing votes among women?

Wow what an ending.

WOW WHAT A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!

Trump is a rabid dog.

Holy smoke that was a great debate!

Watching the Fox News spin.

Brit Hume said the same thing as me.
His first ten minutes were his strongest.
Then he unravelled.

I listened on the radio while driving... and Trump came out strong, I agree. I was initially worried, but I then Trump lost it. His unhinging was a "sight" to listen to. Hillary got in some good licks, I wish she had gone after him even more. I bet the Hillary camp is very chuffed right now.

My observation is this:

Donald Trump was surging in the polls.
After 15 minutes of the debate, I was beginning to think he is our next president.

Then, she said something that got under his skin, and he just went over the cliff.

Then, for the next hour, she won some very big parries.

Then he did well for about a half hour, then the final 8 minutes or so was some of the most dramatic debating in the history of this country.
That was a crazy ending!

For Hillary, she was really strong.
She was confident, smiling, she hit him real hard on several issues.

In retrospect, she may have let him off the hook a little too much in the last hour… until that electrifying ending.

It was like 10 rounds to 2 for Hillary in a 12 round heavy weight fight.

Wow!

I just don't know how women can vote for this fool.

I had the same impression Jim,

He started strong and controlled.
She baited him a few times and after 15-20 minutes he was ranting.
That went on a good 20-30 minutes, then he calmed a bit and her responses got a bit snoozy even for me.
But he went off the rails again towards the end and she blasted him.

When he baited her she remained in control and returned fire well. And didn't let him talk over her.

I'm obviously biased but most of the talking heads called it similarly: Trump did well for 20-30 minutes, then committed blunder after blunder.

The quick feedback polls had her winning the debate by a large margin. But will it change the "who you gonna vote for" polls?

JimHow wrote: ...
Then, she said something that got under his skin, and he just went over the cliff.
...

It looked to me like she got under his skin from the moment they were on stage, and only waited for a weak moment from him to begin rubbing on his nerves.
He reverted back to the ADHD Trump under that pressure, ultimately unfocused and incoherent.

I guess the "Humbling in Hofstra" went as well as the Clinton campaign could have hoped for.

It wasn't a knockout, and I still think she is in trouble.
I think she'll gain a point or two from this.
It is amazing to me how this guy just can't control himself.
Amazingly thin-skinned on the biggest stage.
She tweaked him and he went crazy.

I guess question is whether the debate will change voters' minds and their vote? I'm not sure. I think Trump may have been slightly ill-lots of snorting and he looked tired unlike Hillary who looked rested.

Jay Winton wrote:I guess question is whether the debate will change voters' minds and their vote? I'm not sure. I think Trump may have been slightly ill-lots of snorting and he looked tired unlike Hillary who looked rested.

I guess all that hand waving he's been doing for exercise hasn't done anything for his stamina.

Interesting research and article on factchecks...Find it informative...

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/27/495233627 ... cks-matter

This statement seems interesting...

A recent study from Nyhan and Reifler found that 46 percent of subjects who scored high on a political knowledge test were "extremely" or "very" interested in reading a fact check, compared to 24 percent of people with low political knowledge.

Maybe that explains to some extent when people with die-hard blind affiliations on both sides of spectrum believe in what they believe in and ignore facts...

Hopefully this Miss Universe controversy will maintain traction. I think it will.
How can any woman in the country vote for this pig?

So she picked up about 2 points post-debate.
She's doomed.
We're all doomed.

I personally knew concentration camp survivors, and I am terrified that Trump could take us down a similar path with the complicity of an ignorant and angry electorate.

I don't know if you are following the voter suppression issue going on in Wisconsin right now.
Scott Walker is stealing the election there.

No, tell me more.

The electoral breakdown is more encouraging, but there is still plenty of time left for an October surprise.

'fraid not. Clinton is a juggernaut. The only thing standing between her and the Casa Blanca is ... a coughing fit.

Despite a federal court order, the state of Wisconsin DMV is not issuing voter IDs in time enough for the election.
They say this will affect about 9% of the population, mostly poor and African American.

https://www.thenation.com/article/wisco ... -november/