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2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:55 am
by Nicklasss
With duck confit tonight, I wanted a good wine, so I went back to Loire that I did not go since a few weeks.

The 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon Vieilles Vignes seemed ready to drink on the eye, as I remember that wine being dark red, and it is now like medium Bourgogne red. The wine has been numb for a good 69-75 minutes, but after, whoooof! The wine opened drastically, with a great nose of red berries, blackberries, tobacco leave, purple grape, vegetal, light black pepper and other light spices. Also something earthy. In mouth, not as complex as the nose but still very good with purple grape and purple berries attack, medium body, tannins, earth, leafy flavors. Decent finish, light but medium long, like cumin and spicy wood. The magic of Cabernet Franc. Will hold a few more years, but deçant and drink it today is ok. Tn: 90.

Nic

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:09 am
by robert goulet
I hear good things about this house Nic. Cab franc is one of my favorite grapes. Unfortunately, this red neck town see's little to no cab franc.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:17 am
by JimHow
I have to try a chinon some day.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:18 am
by robert goulet
Jim


2007 Olga Raffault Picasses $25

World Class cab franc

Stop sleeping brother

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:28 am
by JimHow
Ha funny you should mention that Bobby, I was just looking at that on the PJ's site in NYC. Same price.
I'll pick some up in a couple weeks when I come back through New York from my vacation.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:30 am
by JimHow
Any thoughts on the 2009? It goes for a couple bucks more.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:31 am
by JimHow
And the 2010 is $23.
PJ's calls this THE benchmark wine of the Loire Valley.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:22 am
by Nicklasss
I just bought some 2012 Raffault Picasses Chinon last week. Can't wait to open one. I like these cabernet franc from Loire.

Nic

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:56 pm
by Racer Chris
I have a 2009 Olga Raffault Les Picasses that I'll be opening sometime soon.
It'll be my first Chinon, but one of my favs from last year was a Cab Franc from Merryvale.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:16 pm
by robert goulet
2007and 2010 is what I want Jim...but hard to go wrong with this house

I am a big 2007 fan

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:45 pm
by MikeEvans
JimHow wrote:And the 2010 is $23.
PJ's calls this THE benchmark wine of the Loire Valley.
I love Raffault, and have been drinking and buying it for 20 years, but the only red producer who could be said to make THE benchmark wine of the Loire Valley is Clos Rougeard. Looking at Raffault, the 2007 is good, but on the rustic side. I prefer the 2009 and 2010 for current drinking. They also do a lot of library releases, and the 1985, 1989, and 1990 are all ready for prime time and are surprisingly inexpensive.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:53 pm
by MikeEvans
Racer Chris wrote:I have a 2009 Olga Raffault Les Picasses that I'll be opening sometime soon.
It'll be my first Chinon, but one of my favs from last year was a Cab Franc from Merryvale.
Cabernet Franc from the Loire tends to be a very different animal than California CF. Loire CF tends to show much more pyrazines (bell pepper), olives, earthiness, and other savory elements and doesn't have new oak to hide (or offset, if one prefers) those qualities. Think classic old Figeac rather than Angelus.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:47 am
by robert goulet
Mike....I purchased a 1977 Olga library release last yr.
Orlando Bobby (now AWOL) had an epic dinner at his home soon after. The theme centered around Loire wines...The '77 Olga was spectacular and WOTN red versus some serious competition. All that glorious aged franc for $99

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:26 am
by JimHow
Greetings from Dubai!
I got 6 bottles of the 2007 Olga which I will be picking up in NYC late next week!

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:02 pm
by Blanquito
I find Chinon to be an acquired taste... not for everyone.

Re: 2009 Philippe Alliet Chinon VV

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:02 pm
by robert goulet
Yes!!!!!! and Greetings to u from Austin Tx.

If u do not like it I will purchase all the remaining bottles from u Jim.