Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

Kudos to Orlando Bobby for calling this out one. I grabbed some cheap at auction, fills into the neck, and I’m glad I did.

Terrific bouquet of Gravesy smoke and cinder, with complementary notes of leather and earthy forest floor. Fully resolved with a layered mouthfeel and plenty of verve. Love the umami here, showing nuances of ketchup. The nose is legit, running with much more exalted names, but with a lighter and leaner palate showing its roots, and a lingering tangy finish. Punches way above its weight, over performing its “objective” score.

This is a wine — an unheralded lighter-weight wine with glorious aromatics and a lighter unextracted authenticity — that Bordeaux won’t and (probably) can’t make anymore, showing just how much Parker’s palate ruined Bordeaux.

So cool, glad you enjoyed this wine!

I have one left. Should pop with another similar classic, 1990 La Louviere.

I drank many bottles of this. It was a great bargain. I am glad that you found some, Patrick.

Thanks, guys. I admit, it’s unheralded wines like this that get me howling at the moon (the 90 Louviere is another perfect example), bemoaning what’s become of the wine world.

Ahh I remember this too, along with that 90 La Louviere. Most of these must have been long gone by age 15. I didn't really trust & understand the aging power of great vintages when I was new to this.

Also I don't think these were 'unheralded' contemporaneously. Parker was all over them back then; I would not have known/purchased them - back then - without his Seal of Approval !

If someone is looking for the modern equivalent of an 89 Olivier to lay down for some years and goes for a song, check out the red Graves from Chantegrive.

Another lovely, tertiary, effortless bottle of this tonight. Wow, what a great QPR.

I remember drinking a bottle of the ‘89 in Curacau, an eon ago.

Man color me jelly!

It was this wine and the 1990 La Louviere that got me hooked on Bordeaux. Both wines so over-delivered. Still see these pop up on wine bid. I should grab some more. I bet I’ve had two cases of the La Louv and 1.5 cases of Oliver. I even bought a six pack of mags in the mid-90s.

Great memories.

JimHow wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:29 am I remember drinking a bottle of the ‘89 in Curacau, an eon ago.

I smell a story here....

OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:52 am

JimHow wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:29 am I remember drinking a bottle of the ‘89 in Curacau, an eon ago.

I smell a story here....

Indeed. My nights in Curaçao always had a story.

All of them ought to start with a Blue Hawaii

OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:50 am Man color me jelly!

It was this wine and the 1990 La Louviere that got me hooked on Bordeaux. Both wines so over-delivered. Still see these pop up on wine bid. I should grab some more. I bet I’ve had two cases of the La Louv and 1.5 cases of Oliver. I even bought a six pack of mags in the mid-90s.

Great memories.

Sounds tasty, I love finding value older Bordeaux from great vintages. The 1990 Pibran was a perfect example of this.

You guys are getting me excited for the bottle of 1990 Louviere I just got in. Might have to open soon. Feels like a perfect BWE zoom wine!

JoelD wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:51 am

OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:50 am Man color me jelly!

It was this wine and the 1990 La Louviere that got me hooked on Bordeaux. Both wines so over-delivered. Still see these pop up on wine bid. I should grab some more. I bet I’ve had two cases of the La Louv and 1.5 cases of Oliver. I even bought a six pack of mags in the mid-90s.

Great memories.

Sounds tasty, I love finding value older Bordeaux from great vintages. The 1990 Pibran was a perfect example of this.

You guys are getting me excited for the bottle of 1990 Louviere I just got in. Might have to open soon. Feels like a perfect BWE zoom wine!

Go for it Joel.

Yes, the expensive high reputation vins de Bordeaux are famous with some age. But i mean almost 75 to 80 % of the less expensive/lower reputation will age well too. But even if Chateau Oliver is a bit under the radar, don't forget it is a Cru Classé de Graves.

You made me jalous too blanquito.

It seems like someone already rated the 1989 Chateau Olivier 91.5714 points, but I can't remember who it was...

Nicklasss wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:15 am It seems like someone already rated the 1989 Chateau Olivier 91.5714 points, but I can't remember who it was...

Damn, that sounds like a good rating system. Where can I find out more about this??

Good bottles of the 90 Louviere are truly excellent and were/are world class QPR. I didn’t discover the 90 Louviere until 2011 or so, and it was already fully mature then but it seems to be holding very well. Let us know how it shows, Joel.