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Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:47 pm
by Jay Winton
2008 Momtazi purchased with the 2008 Zenith. Served with King Salmon. This was a delicious bottle of wine. Everything in proportion and probably as good as it will get. I thought the 08 Zenith, while good, was past it a bit. Not this bottle and it quickly evaporated.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:13 pm
by Jay Winton
Another 2008 Zenith last night. Much better than the previous bottle. No great wines only great bottles.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:08 am
by AKR
For fans of OR pinot, this hour+ long podcast with Ken Wright is well worth the listen. I played it while on a bike ride this morning and it was very educational. Wright seems to have been involved in the region since very early on and has helped shape the various AVAs.

https://www.vinography.com/2019/04/ill_ ... nemaker_ke

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:09 am
by stefan
I avoided drinking 2015 SI's for a while because some were closed. Tonight I opened a 2015 SI Innocent that was open, preferring instead to drink 2016s when I wanted a young SI PN. It tastes of tart strawberries and cranberries. It went very well with Lucie's King Salmon crab cakes.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:34 am
by stefan
I drank another 2016 SI Zenith tonight with pork chops. This is arguably the best ever Zenith. Cranberries, wild strawberries, touch of road tar, ... I would be happy to drink a bottle every couple of months over the next ten years.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:57 am
by stefan
Normally when Lucie is not drinking I Repour a newly opened bottle after drinking 1/3 - 1/2 of it during dinner. Don't think I will use Repour tonight. I should save a glass for lunch tomorrow, but this princess is so seductive that I probably will not be able to restrain myself from finishing the bottle.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:51 am
by SherilynDominion
Interesting.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:49 pm
by Claret
2013 SI Freedom Hill PN with bluefin tuna sashimi. Grown on sedimentary soil.

Medium bodied with red fruit, earth, a bit of iron and balancing acidity. Ready to go now and will hold at least 5 years.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:26 am
by stefan
Time for this thread to move up! We have drunk a lot of Oregon nes since the last post on the thread. Today, back in Texas, I had a glass of 2016 SI Freedom Hill PN. What a nice wine this is. Concentrated with black fruit, some basalt, and good finish.

With pan seared red snapper for dinner Lucie and I drank 2019 Domaine Drouhin Arthur Chardonnay. Sure, this wine will develop and improve for one or two blanquitoes, but for now it is just a great throw-down chard for a good piece of fish. You can find it at $32, which is what I think I paid as a top tier club member.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:55 pm
by William P
News from Oregon. The relatively new winery Lingua Franca (Larry Stone project) announced that it had been purchased by Constellation Brands. I assume that Larry and crew would have preferred to stay independent but sales weren't sufficient to cover expenses, especially given the disaster of 2020. I like their style and wines but found there are far better values in the Willamette Valley.

Had the 2017 St. Innocent Freedom Pinot last night, it took about two hours to open, but it impressed me.

Bill

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:55 pm
by stefan
We drank a 2015 SI Shea the other night. It has now opened up. It still has quite a way to go to reach maturity, but it is pleasurable to drink currently.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:59 pm
by stefan
Tonight we are drinking 2016 SI Justice with chicken schnitzel. This is a "wow" Justice. Concentrated black raspberries laced with volcanic ash are just what you expect after one sniff. When I drink an Oregon PN like this one, I wonder why I bother searching for quality GC Burgundies that cost only 4 times as much. I should instead buy four times as many bottles of the OR PN that I like.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 1:12 pm
by Claret
I was psyched to open a 2008 Momtazi SS on the tail end of my recently acquired Covid. I lost my sense of taste and smell Wednesday, so no go!

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 1:27 pm
by stefan
Oh, too bad, Glenn. Hope your senses return to normal quickly.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 1:36 pm
by JimHow
Nice. I uncorked a 2018 Momtazi and 2014 Stony Hill with lobster last night for a family birthday party....

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 2:36 pm
by JCNorthway
I wonder why I bother searching for quality GC Burgundies that cost only 4 times as much. I should instead buy four times as many bottles of the OR PN that I like.
I can relate to that, Stefan. With the incessant price increases on red Burgundy wines, I have been focusing more on Oregon Pinots. In fact I don't think I've purchased anything other than Bourgogne level Burgundy wines for at least 5 years.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 3:21 pm
by Jay Winton
JimHow wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 1:36 pm Nice. I uncorked a 2018 Momtazi and 2014 Stony Hill with lobster last night for a family birthday party....
I believe they call it LOBSTAH in Maine.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 3:29 pm
by JimHow
JimHow wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 8:36 am
Nice. I uncorked a 2018 Momtazi and 2014 Stony Hill with lobster last night for a family birthday party....
I believe they call it LOBSTAH in Maine.
Ayuh!

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:30 pm
by Claret
I have had mixed experiences on about 10 bottles of 2010 Evesham Wood Les Puits Sec PN. A bottle shared with William P. 5 years ago was fantastic. Another bottle had tart acidity. The last few bottles have been very good, and the latest was really good.

Light bodied and red fruited with nice savory notes and some tertiaries. Close to peak drinking window and should hold on for a few more years.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:36 pm
by Claret
Happily my Covid loss of sense of smell and taste has passed. Last week with about 85% sensory ability I opened 2008 SI Momtazi Special Selection.

I find Momtazi to be fuller bodied and different than my preferred sites in Eola-Amity Hills. I have not been wowed by Momtazi prior to this bottle. The 2008 SS made a very good impression and made my tastebuds tingle in a way most wines do not. I fondly remember 1989 Beaucastel doing the taste bud dance and some other wines. I enjoyed this bottle very much even with diminished tasting ability.

Now I get Momtazi!

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:05 am
by DavidG
Glad to hear that your smell and taste have recovered Glenn. Took over a year for my wife, and she still has occasional olfactory distortion.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:28 am
by stefan
Welcome back, Glenn. Losing your senses is no fun.

It also took me a while to appreciate Momtazi. Now I love it.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 1:35 pm
by Claret
Thank you, David and stefan. More mature SI to come in the next couple of weeks.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 4:56 pm
by RPCV
I never had a St. Innocent Pinot before and based on this thread I asked the local retailer to bring in a few bottles. I tasted 2017 Freedom Hill, 2017 Temperance Hill, 2016 Zenith and 2015 Shea. Either I do not like this style or the wines were cooked. Super closed on the nose (almost reduced with a burnt rubber/coffee ground aroma) and they never did open over three days. Dense mouthfeel, almost Gevrey-like, with some tannin but these wines lacked charm. Must have been cooked. I'll try to source a couple of other bottles from an out-of-state retailer and give them a try.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:10 pm
by Claret
Too bad. Burnt and roasted, they sound baked.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:33 pm
by jal
RPCV, I think you're better off just getting the winery to ship you a case. When I bought from them, they used 10 day shipping in refrigerated trucks for a reasonable shipping fee.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:57 pm
by stefan
Too bad, RPCV. The cross section you drank are all good wines. The 2017s drink very well young, and Temperance Hill is particularly good that year with black fruit, charcoal, and volcanic ash (but maybe you do not like those in Pinot Noir).

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:16 pm
by RPCV
jal wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:33 pm RPCV, I think you're better off just getting the winery to ship you a case. When I bought from them, they used 10 day shipping in refrigerated trucks for a reasonable shipping fee.
Thank you Jacques. I took your advice and have a mixed case on the way. Super nice people at the winery.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:21 pm
by JimHow
Well done, RP. Jacques’s advice is sound. I order a mixed case once a year. You are right, they are very friendly there and the service is usually A+, the wines are delivered as promised.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:24 pm
by RPCV
Had them throw in a Chardonnay...just for fun. It was described it as Chablis-like, which I find intriguing. Love me some Chablis.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:11 pm
by JimHow
I ordered three of their Chardonnays in my last order based on William P’s recommendation, uncorked one, loved it! A revelation, as Comte would say.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:42 pm
by stefan
Interesting about the Chard. I think Mark's best white is the Pinot Blanc. His Chardonnay is OK, but I much prefer Goodfellow's. 'Course all SI wine is very well made and from good grapes, so personal preference plays a large role here.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:03 am
by Claret
Yes, the Pinot Blanc is very nice, although I have not had one in a while.

I used to enjoy the Pinot Gris and Villages Cuvee. Are they both out of the lineup now?

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 am
by stefan
Yes, Mark wanted to cut back, Glenn.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:13 am
by jal
Good luck RPCV, now at least you'll be able to tell if you like the style or not.
Personally, I do love St. Innocent but I prefer regular Bourgogne and Villages Pinot Noir so I stopped buying.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:03 pm
by Claret
Two more from SI this month.

2008 Shea Special Selection needed 2+ hours in the decanter for the heavy funk to blow off. It morphed into a fullish bodied PN with more time to go.

This weekend 2002 Seven Springs is just delightful. It reminds me of a 1er Volnay. Lighter in body, tertiary and at peak. My last bottle sadly.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:08 pm
by stefan
000h! 2002 7 Springs SS! Really nice.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:09 am
by stefan
Right now I am drinking 2014 SI Momtazi with chicken & mushrooms in a white wine sauce. I gave it three+ hours of air to bring out the dusty quality. The volcanic soil comes through well in this vintage. The tannins are still ahead of the black fruit, but this Momtazi is a pleasure to drink now even if it will be better in five years.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:56 pm
by JoelD
https://www.cru-domaine.com/product/st- ... ry-ticket/

Something I stumbled upon for you St. Innocent fans. Looks interesting. Nearest to Stefan and Lucie, assuming you guys are in Oregon this time of the year.

Re: St. Innocent thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:08 pm
by stefan
Thanks, Joel. We'll be back home when this event occurs. It should be a fun tasting.