Second wine of Chateaux
Second wine of Chateaux
In a vintage like 2010, do you think or did your tried any Second wine worth the search?
Nic
Nic
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The 2009 Lacoste-Borie (2nd wine of GPL) provided me lots of pleasure. It also fared very well in a blind tasting.
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I haven't tried any that I can think of but I ended up purchasing cases of both the La Dame de Montrose and La Gravette de Certan as I can't imagine that they won't be stellar values in the near future as I picked both up in the lower $40 range per.
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Lacoste borie is my shhhh second....it is a cracker and best bang for the buck back up....2010 kills...for me better than a lot of the big named cru bourgeois
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a 98 Pavillon rouge (Margaux 2nd) was in good form last night but time to drink up.
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Jay, I'm finding that about most 1998 Bordeaux, up to and including Château Latour, which I have had on two occasions not long ago.
However, it is rightly pointed out that the 98 Right Bankers are more successful.
Alex R.
However, it is rightly pointed out that the 98 Right Bankers are more successful.
Alex R.
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I don't drink second wines.
I don't want the left overs, the second best grapes of a property.
I don't want the left overs, the second best grapes of a property.
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I'm not as strict as you, Jim.
If quality and price are right, I don't care whether it is a vin de garde or a second wine. BTW, fortunately, the quality of many second wines has increased dramatically in the last decade...
If quality and price are right, I don't care whether it is a vin de garde or a second wine. BTW, fortunately, the quality of many second wines has increased dramatically in the last decade...
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"BTW, fortunately, the quality of many second wines has increased dramatically in the last decade..."
MAYBE, BUT SO HAS THE PRICE -- to ridiculous levels for many 2ds and the quality is rarely there -- I'm with Jim -- skip the 2ds and search out the cru b's, Castillions, Fronsacs or Moulis wines that are just as good or better for less money.
MAYBE, BUT SO HAS THE PRICE -- to ridiculous levels for many 2ds and the quality is rarely there -- I'm with Jim -- skip the 2ds and search out the cru b's, Castillions, Fronsacs or Moulis wines that are just as good or better for less money.
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I agree. Most of the 2nd wines of big name Bordeaux producers have reached absurd levels. Haven't tasted 2009 Lacoste Borie so I can't comment on that one. I would consider a 2nd wine only if it was reasonably priced and I was pretty sure it very good.johnz wrote:MAYBE, BUT SO HAS THE PRICE -- to ridiculous levels for many 2ds and the quality is rarely there -- I'm with Jim -- skip the 2ds and search out the cru b's, Castillions, Fronsacs or Moulis wines that are just as good or better for less money
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