When President Obama is re-elected!!

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:57 am

Agreed, he's got to get serious about his policies, and he and his surrogates have to get back to pointing out the unfavourable aspects of a Romney/Repub presidency! I think he can recover, but he's got to focus and he's got to get serious.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:42 am

It is so pathetic to watch the Democrats groveling to get the Big Dog out there to campaign for their wimp candidate. The New York Times crowd was shitting all over Bill and Hillary in the primaries back in 2008, but, oh, they forget about that now. To their credit-- because they have no insecurities about the sizes of their penises-- Bill and Hillary are performing the roles of the good soldiers. I still say Big Bill was the greatest president we've had since Kennedy, and if it weren't for Monica, I'd rank him greatest since FDR. Even old man Bush, looking back, is looking good. Big Bill is the ultimate master politician. Those of us who supported Hillary back in '08 should pat ourselves on the back. Picture her in that debate last week. Something tells me it would have been a little different. Obama is such a pussy.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:04 am

The problem is that, if George H.W. Bush had won in 1988 (which he did) or 1992 (which he didn't), the system would nonetheless not have collapsed like it has today. And if Bob Dole had won in 1996, things would have been different, but the system wouldn't have collapsed. But starting in 1994 (the Gingrich Revolution) and culminating in 2000 (the election of George W. Bush), and continuing on into this century (Bush re-election, Tea Party, Sarah Palin, Fox News, Romney/Ryan), the stakes of these elections have truly become significant, because of the polarization of the outer fringes that control the parties. I know some take the Naderite position that there are no differences between the two major parties and while I think that's basically true in the military realm, I disagree with that sentiment otherwise. this is a huge election.

Hey, Obama up by 5 points in today's Gallup, 50-45%. I'm hanging my hat on that, and, at least today, can't lower the Obama JHEPI score under 50.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:31 am

Watching the story of that 14 year old Pakistani girl Malala... such a heartbreaking story.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:50 am

JimHow wrote:....Pappa Joe Biden versus The Kid tomorrow night.... Wow!

Do you think they'll play The Kid is too young to possibly be the POTUS?

robertgoulet · Post by **robertgoulet** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:09 pm

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/elector ... ince-1980/

robertgoulet · Post by **robertgoulet** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm

Drove around my hood yesterday 25 Romney Ryan signs...5 Obama signs, though we know that means nothing

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:49 pm

I've given up on FLA, Robert.
How about NC, Rob, it's all ovah there for the prez too, eh?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:05 am

Joe sounds strong in opening.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:07 am

Ryan comes out on attack.
How will Joe respond?

This is gonna be a brawl.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:08 am

Look at Joe... Smiling at The Kid...

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:09 am

A bunch of malarkey!!

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:09 am

Joe's spanking him hard.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:13 am

Martha's questions are biased against the administration so far.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:23 am

20 minutes in. Joe Biden may be saving the Obama presidency here.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:28 am

Mitt Romney is a car guy!!!???

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:32 am

His Dad ran AMC no?
Joe needs a beer to really cut loose.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:35 am

What a great debate!
Both men acquitting themselves well.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:38 am

Medicare up to bat.............

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:39 am

JimHow wrote:What a great debate!
Both men acquitting themselves well.

Blow for blow.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:47 am

Joe's doing good but he needs to take a breath.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:49 am

Ryan getting stuck in numbers.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:50 am

Joe gets going a little too fast.
Ryan trying to get people to do math.

It is a much better debate.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:52 am

Oh now you're Jack Kennedy ..

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:54 am

Oh now you're Jack Kennedy.

We have a zinger.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:03 am

Joe is winning the argument on Afghanistan.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:05 am

I think Ryan is hammering too hard on the "unraveling....".

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:07 am

Now Joe went after the ref.
He's a mad dog.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:09 am

He just reversed Ryan on east Afghanistan.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:11 am

What a great debate!!
Both men have acquitted themselves very well.
Joe did what his boss should have done last week.
The Kid shows he belongs.
This was more important for the Obama campaign though.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:12 am

Joe is indeed a mad dog.
But I think the Democrats needed a mad dog tonight.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:14 am

JimHow wrote:......
This was more important for the Obama campaign though.

Joe is giving the campaign some spark.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:14 am

I agree!

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:17 am

The moderator is doing a great job.
Trying to box Ryan in.

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:18 am

Then the religion question .

We should be sharing a bottle and watching.
Virtual Cheers.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:21 am

Yeah this would be fun to watch with BWEers, left and right, over a bottle or two of a northern Medoc.

This has been one hell of a debate, a Hagler-Hearns of debates!

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:24 am

I think Joe played the camera well. Maybe a little too much at the begining.
Ryan is tough.
Doesn't get rattled and as we say in the South " ain't scared".

robert goulet · Post by **robert goulet** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:40 am

Joe 'plugs' Biden held up well tonight...Ryan a budget guy not a foreign policy guy...joe I felt did a bit better except for all that creepy smiling and gestures a bit off-putting

RDD · Post by **RDD** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:33 am

robert goulet wrote:Joe 'plugs' Biden held up well tonight...Ryan a budget guy not a foreign policy guy...joe I felt did a bit better except for all that creepy smiling and gestures a bit off-putting

Yea some of his early gestures were too much.
There was one point where he was gesturing with a pencil with is middle finger extended.
I swear it looked like subliminally he was giving Ryan the finger.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:51 pm

Ryan did reasonably well, I thought, but Biden was the clear "winner". He did what Obama should have done in the first debate by challenging the false charges and demanding specifics. The Republicans should stay away from the foreign policy attacks. The administration is strong there and Biden made Ryan look like the neophyte he is in the international arena.