BUYING WINES DURING THE 2020 BUYING MORATORIUM
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Regarding NH inventory, it's also not a "live" inventory. It's accurate as of the beginning of the day but does not reflect any changes made during the day.
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LOL ok folks, in celebration of our free-wheeling BWE ways, I have changed the thread title and opening post to better reflect its current content!
2020 BUYING MORATORIUM
Five days down, zero purchases.
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Marcs...
just because we are discussing the menu, doesn't mean we are ordering the food....
just because we are discussing the menu, doesn't mean we are ordering the food....
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No wine bought today, but I’ve been doing a lot of window shopping.
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Six days down, no purchases.
360 days to go.
I received 2 bottles of Colorado wine today to try as part of a promotional effort. I did not buy them.
360 days to go.
I received 2 bottles of Colorado wine today to try as part of a promotional effort. I did not buy them.
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Some encouragement for the weak:
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A week in, cruising along...
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Unsubscribing to wine emails and downsizing to one household has made this easy so far.
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Ok, this is going to be a struggle:
I was running out of White Burgundy to drink so:
3 Charlene et Laurent Pinson - Chablis les Clos 2017
4 Gilbert Picq - Chablis Dessus la Carriere 2017
2 Gilbert Picq - Chablis Vosgros 2017
3 William Fèvre - Chablis Bougros 2017
Total 12 bottles
15 bottles remaining and January is not over yet.
I may be the first one to fail.
I was running out of White Burgundy to drink so:
3 Charlene et Laurent Pinson - Chablis les Clos 2017
4 Gilbert Picq - Chablis Dessus la Carriere 2017
2 Gilbert Picq - Chablis Vosgros 2017
3 William Fèvre - Chablis Bougros 2017
Total 12 bottles
15 bottles remaining and January is not over yet.
I may be the first one to fail.
Best
Jacques
Jacques
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Still sitting at 7 bottles of champagne purchased in 2020.
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Gosh, jacques, isn't there an exception for wines of a type on which you are running out?
David, you got lucky since apparently there is no exception for wines used only for cooking.
I am glad that the BD kept me out of the moratorium by not approving my very reasonable exception requests as I am coming across many necessary exceptions that I did not think about.
David, you got lucky since apparently there is no exception for wines used only for cooking.
I am glad that the BD kept me out of the moratorium by not approving my very reasonable exception requests as I am coming across many necessary exceptions that I did not think about.
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And it's still early . . .I am coming across many necessary exceptions that I did not think about.
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This is a truly pathetic performnce by Mr. Jacques Levy.
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Indeed. But I will use every trick in the book, every loophole, every exemption to succeed. May the God of Technicalities give me strength!JimHow wrote:This is a truly pathetic performnce by Mr. Jacques Levy.
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Jacques
Jacques
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Holding fast, buoyed by Marcus' reassurance that 2016 Sociando will still be available in January 2021.
Stefan, the Colorado white, a NV Vidal Blanc with a bit of Gewurtz, was a simple, light, quaffable, dry and floral wine that I didn’t mind drinking, and for $12 I could see it as a wine to have in quantity for a summer deck party with non-drinkers. The Tempranillo, OTOH, was 1 glass to taste and I’m out.
Stefan, the Colorado white, a NV Vidal Blanc with a bit of Gewurtz, was a simple, light, quaffable, dry and floral wine that I didn’t mind drinking, and for $12 I could see it as a wine to have in quantity for a summer deck party with non-drinkers. The Tempranillo, OTOH, was 1 glass to taste and I’m out.
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Says the man who acquired 600 bottles of 2014 Bordeaux months before calling the moratoriumThis is a truly pathetic performnce by Mr. Jacques Levy.
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I'll try to help. For many, pinot noir isn't considered wine. There you go.
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Haven’t bought anything yet this year. Wondering if those $10-$20 Pinot Grigio, Rose or Côte du Rhône count when they are purchased to bring to a party or to bring to someone’s house. Don’t think they should because they aren’t for cellaring and are bought for some others preference.
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Holding fast!
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My personal view is that this can be seen as a moratorium on wine *collecting*, so that individual bottles purchased locally to be consumed that same night do not fall under it. This is similar to the exemption for individual bottles purchased for restaurant consumption -- basically if you are buying "casually" to drink immediately it is OK.Winona Chief wrote:Haven’t bought anything yet this year. Wondering if those $10-$20 Pinot Grigio, Rose or Côte du Rhône count when they are purchased to bring to a party or to bring to someone’s house. Don’t think they should because they aren’t for cellaring and are bought for some others preference.
Chris Bublitz
I would also say that this does not extend to ordering wine for delivery from afar, even if you intend to consume once received, since that is not immediate consumption and gets too close to the collecting line. If you could order off Winesearcher and the like you could do back-door collecting by, e.g. ordering a new bottle of 2000 Lagrange to drink when you instead would have drunk a 2000 Lagrange out of your collection.
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Ok, I definitely should have opted for the champagne exemption!
2020 purchases to date:
4 of the 2007 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne
3 of the Krug Grande Cuvée 168
2 of the 2010 Launois BdB Special Club
1 of the Roger Pouillon Champagne Les Terres Froides NV
1 of the 1971 Nervi Gattanara
1 of the 2018 Pepiere Muscadet Briords VV
Twenty days in, and I’m already up to a case. Sigh.
2020 purchases to date:
4 of the 2007 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne
3 of the Krug Grande Cuvée 168
2 of the 2010 Launois BdB Special Club
1 of the Roger Pouillon Champagne Les Terres Froides NV
1 of the 1971 Nervi Gattanara
1 of the 2018 Pepiere Muscadet Briords VV
Twenty days in, and I’m already up to a case. Sigh.
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You are doing fine Mr. Blanquito.
We can make this all disappear easily with a nunc pro tunc Winona Chief Champagne Exemption.
We can make this all disappear easily with a nunc pro tunc Winona Chief Champagne Exemption.
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I will note that I have not purchased one, single, solitary bottle of wine so far in 2020. There have been a few tough moments, but in general it's been easier than I thought so far.
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Standing firm here as well.marcs wrote:I will note that I have not purchased one, single, solitary bottle of wine so far in 2020. There have been a few tough moments, but in general it's been easier than I thought so far.
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You are indeed benevolent, sir!JimHow wrote:You are doing fine Mr. Blanquito.
We can make this all disappear easily with a nunc pro tunc Winona Chief Champagne Exemption.
If the bubbly isn't held against me, I am only at 2 bottles purchased in 2020, one red and one white. Moreover, I did request a 1971 and 1980 exemption for birth year tastings, so I could technically discount the 1971 Nervi as well.
Simple fact: I don't *need* any more red wine or dessert wine based on current rates of consumption. Indeed, if I stop all wine buying today completely and in perpetuity, my spreadsheet tells me I have 10.5 years of red wine and 11.9 years of dessert wine left (per current consumption rates, which I anticipate will go down as I get ready to enter my 50s).
But I have precious little champagne and my white wines in general will only hold out for 6 years (and about 2/3s of that is German Riesling which I don't crave like I used to). So, dry white wines, especially if fizzy, still have a place in my cellar.
That all said, I will redouble my resolve to buy no more wine, no matter the color, no matter the CO2 levels!
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I have 10.5 years of red wine and 11.9 years of dessert wine left (per current consumption rates, which I anticipate will go down as I get ready to enter my 50s).
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I have 10.5 years of red wine and 11.9 years of dessert wine left (per current consumption rates, which I anticipate will go down as I get ready to enter my 50s).
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I thought of you Bill as I wrote that line!stefan wrote:>>
I have 10.5 years of red wine and 11.9 years of dessert wine left (per current consumption rates, which I anticipate will go down as I get ready to enter my 50s).
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???????
I almost wrote, "I'm sure Stefan will point out the fallacy of this thinking...".
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Sounds pretty urgent...if civilization collapses and you are trapped in a bunker with your wines, you will only be able to hold out for six years before having to switch entirely to red winesBlanquito wrote:JimHow wrote:You are doing fine Mr. Blanquito.
We can make this all disappear easily with a nunc pro tunc Winona Chief Champagne Exemption.
But I have precious little champagne and my white wines in general will only hold out for 6 years (and about 2/3s of that is German Riesling which I don't crave like I used to). So, dry white wines, especially if fizzy, still have a place in my cellar.
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I’m glad someone understands the urgency! My wife certainly doesn’t.marcs wrote:Sounds pretty urgent...if civilization collapses and you are trapped in a bunker with your wines, you will only be able to hold out for six years before having to switch entirely to red winesBlanquito wrote:JimHow wrote:You are doing fine Mr. Blanquito.
We can make this all disappear easily with a nunc pro tunc Winona Chief Champagne Exemption.
But I have precious little champagne and my white wines in general will only hold out for 6 years (and about 2/3s of that is German Riesling which I don't crave like I used to). So, dry white wines, especially if fizzy, still have a place in my cellar.
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Put forth your Exemption requests in writing, Blanquito, and I will do everything I possibly can to accomodate.
I've had ZERO problem complying with the moratorium.
I've had ZERO problem complying with the moratorium.
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Still at zero bottles purchased this year but I plan on buying some more 2008 Dom P soon.
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Well done, Winona, I too intend to buy more 2008 Dom.
It all comes in under the Winona Chief Champagne Exemption, of course.
It all comes in under the Winona Chief Champagne Exemption, of course.
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How much is “more” 08 Dom? I have 6, is that enough for me and my bunker?
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My wine store has the best chocolate bars in the universe, so I bought:
Chocolat Bonnat Los Colorados Ecuador × 2
Chocolate Bonnat Java
Chocolat Bonnat Cote d'Ivoire
Chocolat Bonnat Asfarth Indonesia
I didn't purchase any wine!!!!!!!
Chocolat Bonnat Los Colorados Ecuador × 2
Chocolate Bonnat Java
Chocolat Bonnat Cote d'Ivoire
Chocolat Bonnat Asfarth Indonesia
I didn't purchase any wine!!!!!!!
Best
Jacques
Jacques
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Blanquito wrote:How much is “more” 08 Dom? I have 6, is that enough for me and my bunker?
It's exempt! Buy all you can before BWE pulls a 2003 Pontet Canet trick and you won't be able to find it anywhere....
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Jacques
Jacques
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I'm starting to be worried about the mental sanity of those participating in the moratorium.jal wrote:My wine store has the best chocolate bars in the universe, so I bought:
Chocolat Bonnat Los Colorados Ecuador × 2
Chocolate Bonnat Java
Chocolat Bonnat Cote d'Ivoire
Chocolat Bonnat Asfarth Indonesia
I didn't purchase any wine!!!!!!!
I'm scared that next time I'll meet you guys, i won't recognize you anymore, you'll have changed forever, for the worst.
Nic
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Did the BD give you guys a BeserkerDay exemption?
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I don't know anything about Berserker Day, I read only Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts, the greatest wine web site inthe world!
Exemptions are only allowed nunc pro tunc if they were conceptualized in December 2019.
Exemptions are only allowed nunc pro tunc if they were conceptualized in December 2019.
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I bought some Flannery steaks at the Berserker Day 30% off discount.
Still at zero bottles of wine purchased in 2020.
Still at zero bottles of wine purchased in 2020.
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